I saw these described as french girl's converse. I could not agree more. I went to school with many french girls in my life and I swear they all had these shoes. One time I made my mom search every store and mall we could find for these shoes but we came up short every time. Now I know why. They really are french girl shoes. Well, lucky me (and you) cause I can order them right here now and they don't cause a crazy amount!